Adult Rugby Player Review.

“OCRFC Adult Rugby Review:

All adult players shall be contacted over the coming week to ten days with a view to having their say on the rugby activities at adult level in the club. There is an in-depth review of adult rugby in motion, with a view to making definitive recommendations and a proposed improvement plan to the committee, to enhance the adult playing activities of Old Christians RFC.

Your frank and honest opinions are welcomed (you can voice your opinion anonymously, if you wish), as we simply want to find out your views on how we can progress the adult rugby of Old Christians to bigger and better things with more professional standards of on-and-off field resources, equipment, coaching, management and facilities.

Your opinions matter and will shape what we have to do in the club to achieve what the players want, by providing what the players need.”

Any comments would be more than welcome.

3 comments

  1. I think it’s fair to say that Old Christians has a fantastic set-up in terms of facilities and equipment, the work done by club members over the past 10/20 years has completely changed the look of the club and we have a gym, hall and all-weather pitch that any amateur organization would be delighted with.

    In my experience of playing adult rugby from 2011 to the current day, I’ve rarely found any fault with the coaches in terms of commitment and enthusiasm. The fellas involved have always put the work in and given an honest account of themselves. I do think it is clear, with the benefit of hindsight, that coaches who have a link with Old Christians have always tended to do better than the ‘outsiders’.

    Looking back on the seasons I’ve been involved with both men’s teams I think the biggest challenge is retaining the younger lads 18-24. Old Christians has a large playing pool of underage guys but unfortunately it can be tough to get that to translate to the men’s team. At any level in rugby playing numbers are essential to a squad’s performance and particularly at Junior Level so a lot of the time the presence of the younger contingent can decide whether you’re in a relegation battle or not. Trying to create a good social atmosphere for this group could be worth approaching as they’re going to be naturally engaging with the social side of college and this tends to directly clash with the commitments of a Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday. I’m sure Old Christians is not alone in this regard and the presence of a more socially focussed J2/U20/U21 team/league could limit this drop off.

    Finally, I think there’s good value in a marquee player as long as they’re climatically suited and don’t retreat in November!

  2. Quote,
    “Trying to create a good social atmosphere for this group could be worth approaching as they’re going to be naturally engaging with the social side of college and this tends to directly clash with the commitments of a Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday. I’m sure Old Christians is not alone in this regard and the presence of a more socially focussed J2/U20/U21 team/league could limit this drop off.”

    You’ve hit the nail on the head, Darragh,
    Dave PRO

  3. My name is Eamonn O’Connor,I was on the club website and reading the article about club improvements. I have long been a supporter of the club. I played with the club all through under age, and junior level before injury cut me short,but I still go to games when I can.Since then I have coached in Presentation Brothers College with the under age, and Sundays well under 20s as assistant coach, also currently senior seconds assistant coach and have acquired my level 3 coaching course.

    Im writing this email as i feel I want to help the club I am passionate about, and hopefully help with improving the club. I feel that the club is in a stable place with all resources in place to push on. I read the comments, and many people outside the club can see that there is a huge drop off after the under age set up finishes. We all know how important that step is in a young players progression,and the clubs. I have a few recommendations that i hope may help. I understand that I do not know the running of the club, and excuse my ignorance on some points.

    1. The club is one of very few clubs in the north side of the city, however, the club seems reliant on a small pool/ area for the players, especially in the older age groups. i suggest maybe promoting the club and its excellent facilities to other schools in the greater area to bring in younger talent and increase general numbers.

    2. The club have two junior teams, and the junior 2 team may be used as more of a development squad for the younger players coming up from the under age setup. this would help them to improve and also ease into the adult rugby system which can be daunting for young players.

    3. Following on from the previous point, I think the players would benefit from more individualized training. By this I mean that the young players that need improving, can be given specified training from the coaches that are not directly involved in the first team. The first team coaches can suggest certain areas to be worked on, as well as what is seen to be needed from junior 2 games by coaches.

    4. Another way i think the club may help bridge the gap between under age and adult rugby, is have some senior players help out in under age coaching sessions from time to time. Maybe a specified session for scrums, line outs, backs etc. I feel the younger players would feel more valued as well as giving them a sense of what the adult set up is like.

    5. For on the pitch , I feel that the club would benefit from filtering down the junior 1 calls. this would filter to J2’s and under 18s allowing any players moving in to the first team to fit in seamlessly.

    6. I saw a suggestion about an under 20s team. Given my experience of this league, i would strongly recommend against it. The league costs approximately 1000 euro to enter a team, and it is a very strong league including many senior clubs. This league can be very demoralizing to young players which can affect their ability and confidence when playing in other teams in the club. I would suggest having two squads, and filling out those teams every week and being far more competitive in those two leagues which creates a better atmosphere in the club.

    I hope these recommendations can help the club.

    Kindest regards,

    Eamonn

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